10 hours to go and congregations in Sydney will start opeining up.
Cant wait for our Aussie friends to report.
elders meeting 30 minutes before regular meeting sunday....like to be a fly on wall for that one!!!!!
wonder what its about?
wife and i slyly grinned when that was announced tonight!
10 hours to go and congregations in Sydney will start opeining up.
Cant wait for our Aussie friends to report.
you may or may not be aware but the charites act 2006 is now in force and it means that from end 2007 charites (including the jw's) will have to proove that they offer public benefit if they are to still retain their charitable status and in turn get gift aid on nearly every single donation and keep their tax exempt status.. the charity law association made some very interesting comments regarding the witnesses in their memorandum that was submitted in evidence to the joint commitee on the draft charites bill.
their comments on the taylorite sect of the exclusive brethren "excluding children from the family home" is also quite relevant.
this is only enidence from an outside body but it shows things could change.. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/jt200304/jtselect/jtchar/167/4061625.htm.
This could be good. The UK is a great place for getting stuff like this done. The next thing I want to see is CRB checks on elders and MS's as they spend too much tome with Children.
If you want to work in a school as a cleaner you need to be CRB checked and rightly so.
Why should elders and MS's have it so easy especially with their track record.
Off topic slightly but a similar thought.
if so, did it bother you that he had been reprooved and forgiven rather than reported to the police?
In 2004 we had an elder accused by a number of Sisters. The authorities got involved and he was imprisioned. However, the body were advised to back off from all judicial action while the Police took over. This was the request of the Police.
I found this hard to deal with as he was still considered a member up until he was released and even came back to the hall like normal. Went to a few book studies also.
A few months later he was eventually disfellowshipped. My question at the time was why hold off judicial action - surely Jehovahs laws are higher than secular laws? If they really believe they are Judging for Jehovah why give in to the Police when told to back off. Perhaps they dont really believe they have judicial authority over and above Caesar.
So many other brothers have stood up to the authorities and died as a result.
I dont care now anyway.
sound of silence.. as my wife is a j.w all along the watchtower!
!.
Either Primal Scream - Get you rocks off get your rocks off honey...
Or
Carly Simon - Nobody does it better...
Or
Yaz and the plastic population - The only way is up...
Naughty, Naughty, Naughty Ministerial Servant !*@~*%$£!*
i recall a ms brother about 62 years old dating and marrying a sister about 30 years younger.
i respect their choice and if they are in love, well good for them.
but i don't think it's to the best interest of the younger one...... do jw's accept bigger age differences in marriage than other religions?.
I'd prefer an older sister any day - they taste better.
i recall a ms brother about 62 years old dating and marrying a sister about 30 years younger.
i respect their choice and if they are in love, well good for them.
but i don't think it's to the best interest of the younger one...... do jw's accept bigger age differences in marriage than other religions?.
Totally blinded by the theory that in the new system they will grow to the same age.
Clearly he's a perv and she's mad.
Look around your hall, it takes all sorts.
Not a normal person in sight.
S8
ok so its only october so maybe this is a bit early.
but for me this is my 2nd year out of the org and i am looking forward to celebrating it again this year just like last year.. isn't it geat that we can join in with this celebration with the rest of the participating world!.
and no guilt feelings of being involved in a pagan celebration, over-indulging a bit, getting drunk a bit and enjoying yourself.. will this year's christmas be a first one for some people here since they have left the org?.
Had a few xmas's while disfellowshitted but now looking forward to my first one while still one the books so to speak.
Snow is falling...
All around me...
Children playing...
Having fun...
S8
i hope everyone is doing well.. .
is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.
a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.
Just be careful. Rules that govern situations like this seem to be created locally.
In short, elders will do what ever they want and re-write the scriptures to support their actions.
My advice is to keep a low profile, say nothing negative and enjoy what limited association you can with your parents.
If you're not bothered about your family then I suggest you wait until the next C/o vist and go to the public talk naked with a banana up your bottom shouting "I'd like to confess my wrong doing, would two witnesses like to come and watch".
That should bring matters to a conclusion rather swiftly.
Just my humble opinion. Some may agree some may disagree.
S8
are you my bowes rd buddy?.
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Oh yes. Got dunked there along with my mate. We thought it was a good idea at the time. No chance of pulling sisters if you're not dunked. A lot of us had the same attitude and for some strange reason, over a 5 year period a whole generation of us got disfellowshipped. Bowes Road in our circuit was known as the "meat market" in my younger days.
Sadly I'm the only one who got back out of about 12 yoofs in our congregation. Just shows how well the shunning arrangement works. It's supposed to bring erring ones to their senses. I suppose it does in a way. They've got the sense to stay out !!!
Anyway, I was there 2 weeks ago for a whole day of drone.
The circuit was commended for it's service report and the fact that there are 99 regular pioneers in our part of the circuit working very very hard.
How hard?
Well, there were two baptized at our assembly!!!!!!!!!!!! (normally about 10 and back in the day 20+)
Both sisters baptized were introduced and named personally by the speaker. How sad.
Both were children raised in the troof.
So what have the 99 pioneers been doing in the field? The slow slow pioneer walk coupled with the knock gently gently in case we have to speak to someone routeen?
I run a business and if my marketing campaign produced such poor results from such hard work and effort, I'd sack my marketing director and write off the money spent as a hard lesson in what not to do.
I'm told the increase this service year is 3.2% as opposed to the 2% last year. Everyone's gonna go wild at the influx of righteous hearted deserving ones.
Oh how I wish I could erase this all from my mind. It has tainted any hope I may have had at worshipping my creator.
S8
5go had a thread here - the service overseer nearly cried from the podium that mentioned something i never realized, elders having to chip in from their own pockets to cover expenses.. how many elders here had to do that, and what was the average amount and frequency that you had to make up the shortfalls?.
bb.
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We dont need to dip in to our pockets.
We have £15000 in our congo account even though our sister congo is struggling to raise money to replace their 60 year old hall (while we enjoy our 3 year old quick build he he).
Perhaps they should pray harder and have more faith then they will be blessed as much as we have been.
Oh, and our African brothers are starving but at least we provide them with Watchtowers which they can use instead of fire wood to keep themsleves warm in the evening.
S8.